On 11/10/2014 04:10, Marco Pivetta wrote:

That would actually be worse, as it wouldn't be possible to pass them to
methods with a `callable` hint or similars such as `array_map`.

That sounds like a good counter to your own argument that there is no use-case for these functions. Indeed, there are plenty of use cases for call_user_func() and call_user_func_array() which have nothing whatsoever to do with variadics, so are as valid as they ever were.

func_get_args() and func_num_args(), OTOH, existed solely to support variadics, and anything taking advantage of them being functions rather than a language structure would have to be quite exotic and arcane, so in principle they could, eventually, be removed, but I agree with others that it's far too soon to remove a feature which has been around since 4.0 just becuase 5.6 includes a better alternative.

In general, I understand why there's a lot of fuss about BC compat here,
but I don't see why providing them as separate file or using something like
a "global include" is a problem. Is/would something like that (be) possible
via ini setting?

If they're included in the core distribution, then why make them optional at all? If it's just a question of how the functions behave, then surely an included (and C-level) implementation should be sought which has the better behaviour?

Regards,

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Rowan Collins
[IMSoP]


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