On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Stas Malyshev <smalys...@sugarcrm.com> wrote:
> Hi! > > > I didn’t close it because the time suited me most. I made an honest > > mistake and closed it 22 or so hours early because I forgot I’d > > opened the vote at ~23:00 and not ~02:00. Unfortunately, I realised > > my mistake after merging the patch. This was definitely not > > intentional. > > That's why we should not rush to merge changes on a vote when there are > significant objections. There's nothing that mandated this change to be > merged immediately after the voting closing, as far as I can see. Yes, > we do not want to make the process endless, but it's better to wait just > a bit and ensure everybody is satisfied or at least reasonably listened > to. Begging people off-list to retract the votes and then close it > earlier on a very marginal result definitely looks like gaming the > system, even if the intent was not to do that. But the intent is only > known to one person, and the actions can be seen by all, so I think it's > better to take extra care here. We want the voting to be means of > enhancing the consensus, not something that would leave people losing > the confidence in the whole process. > -- > Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect > SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > yeah, and when there is like 12 minutes between the last required vote casted and the vote being casted(almost a day earlier), it is easy to jump to conclusions. but putting that aside, what do we do now? Personally I agree that it is a valid concern that some people could have missed the voting period because of this: We already discussed recently that even a week is a bit short (anybody can have a week of vacation etc.) but that is the minimum mandated by the voting rfc, and seeing how close the vote was, I think it would be a good idea to extend the voting. What do you think? ps: I would prefer not reverting the change to save some work/history obfuscation in case if the result stays. -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
