Zeev Suraski wrote (on 22/07/2014):

If I understood you correctly you seem to believe that we should aim
for consensus when it's pretty clear there isn't going to be one.  I
can't see how shuffling the points around under topics will somehow
help us create such consensus.  Knowing many of the people in the two
'camps', I know that's not going to happen.

Yeah, I was just a bit non-plussed at how much this felt like an election targeting a few "floating voters", rather than actually seeking to understand other people's positions. But maybe it's just too late for that, and most people have made up their minds already anyway.

I also don't think it's going to make it any clearer.  In fact I think
that putting these arguments into topics that go back and forth
arguing for 6 and 7 will actually make it a lot messier.

To be fair, looking at the current content, you could more or less interleave the current bullets, since they refer to each other already. My thought was that doing so might reduce some repetition as they wouldn't need to reintroduce the same points in order to rebuff them, but it's not as bad as I thought. The PHP 7 section mostly looks longer because it has an intro and conclusion where the PHP 6 one doesn't.

I got the vibe that people weren't happy with the RFC, and that's why the vote was cancelled, so I was suggesting a way forward, but maybe I misread the situation.

Regards,
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Rowan Collins
[IMSoP]

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