On 14 Jul 2014, at 15:03, Rowan Collins <rowan.coll...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Looking at the current table in the RFC, I'm not clear why NULL should pass 
> as any value, but not array. Could it not behave the same as the existing 
> type hints, i.e. accepted only if declared as a default?
> 
> function foo(array $bar) { } foo(null); // ERROR
> function foo(array $bar=null) { } foo(null); // OK, $bar == NULL
> function foo(int $bar) { } foo(null); // ERROR
> function foo(int $bar=null) { } foo(null); // OK, $bar == NULL

I’m thinking this as well. I wonder if perhaps it should be casted by default, 
but if you make it explicitly nullable, it won’t cast if NULL is passed.

> In summary, I think if the rules can be explained concisely, and the table 
> derived from those rules, it will feel less confusing than having to consult 
> the table to be sure of the effect.
> 
> Having to say "for arrays, the logic is this; for strings, this; for 
> integers, this; for booleans, the other" makes the whole thing seem like a 
> bit of a kludge, and is exactly what the existing "lossy" casts suffer from.
> 
> I would stress that I see this as a new definition of "lossless cast"; this 
> RFC is intentionally *not* using the existing cast logic, as explicit casts 
> *never fail*, so "but existing casts work this way" is not relevant.

Right. I’d like the rules to be simple enough. I think the string, int and 
float ones make perfect sense and can be easily explained, it’s bool I’m 
uncertain about.

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Andrea Faulds
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