2013/9/11 Terence Copestake <terence.copest...@gmail.com> > In less than 10 posts, this thread descended into people bashing each > other. Perhaps that's telling of something. > > I won't comment on the point about forums or anything else, but a concern > brought up repeatedly both here and in various blogs is the lack of > direction or vision. There's a conflict between people who want to keep PHP > simple and accessible and people who want to make PHP into a professional > programming tool/environment, complete with all bells and whistles. With > everyone wanting something different and having different ideas on who the > target users are, what PHP's responsibilities and concerns should be, etc., > it's going to be the classic struggle of trying to be everything for > everybody all at once. > > Perhaps that issue really does need to be tackled head-on - and if a > consensus can't be reached, maybe PHP should branch off, having one version > (not necessarily a different codebase) for hobbyists, small sites and > beginners, alongside a professional branch for production environments and > developers who are willing and able to take off the training wheels and > make use of more advanced features, stop relying on the engine to let them > get away with bad habits, etc. > > The other classic problem is old-timers who get stuck in their ways and > instantly reject the very notion of change because it will take them out of > their comfort zone - and discourage newcomers who might oust them from > their position of power. Perhaps there's a Machiavellian amongst us who can > help out with that one. >
Agree on all. Especially on the last part, seems to me that I just hit that exact spot. To me, as an observer mostly, something has to be done. Developers can't do it all by themselves and I don't see that many people willing to step up and do stuff. I'm not only proposing, but also willing to do my part - I'm good with organizing stuff, coordinating and did my share of forum moderation for years.
