On 01/29/2013 03:12 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:

If I could run my own VM (that much I can do) and periodically just do
apt-get update php-head, that would lower the barrier to testing new
versions by several orders of magnitude.  (Yeah yeah insert RPM vs. Apt
debate here; both are good to have.)  That would be *sweet*. +1
Is building from git really that much harder? Yes, it takes a little bit
of tweaking to get your configure flags right and getting all the right
dev versions of the dependencies installed

And right there in that sentence you've caused the eyes of all but about 3 people in the entire Drupal developer community to glaze over. That's my point. As soon as you say "compiler", most PHP dev's brains shut down. Right or wrong, good or bad, the gulf between PHP developer and C developer is *huge*, and doing anything at all with the PHP engine, including building dev releases yourself, is closer to being a C developer than PHP developer. Even just "I keep a little cn script around" translates to "what's a cn script, and does it have to do with the Chinese locale?" for most people.

If we want more PHP developers helping with internals, even just by testing things, that is the gulf that needs bridging.

--Larry Garfield

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