On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Steve Clay <st...@mrclay.org> wrote:

> On 1/8/13 2:56 AM, Christian Stoller wrote:
>
>> But the way 'nullable' properties are defined is not very intuitive and
>> unclean, in my opinion. Stas has already mentioned that.
>> `public DateTime $date = NULL;` // this looks like the property is
>> initialized with null, but it does not show that the property is 'nullable'
>>
>
> Much agreed. After instantiation, these shouldn't behave differently:
>
> public     $foo = null;
> public Foo $foo = null;
>
> Sure, method signatures have special behavior based on a default value,
> but IMO:
> 1. those semantics aren't entirely intuitive to begin with
> 2. property initializers aren't method sigs
> 3. the semantics would apply only to some properties
>
>
>
>       public DateTime? $date;
>>
>> In C# the question mark after a type is a short hand for a generic
>> Nullable type.
>>
>
> I like that it's an established practice of doing exactly what we're
> trying to do.
>
> Could we not just make it obvious?:
>
> public Foo|null $foo;
>

I updated the RFC to include the current state regarding default value and
nullability:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/propertygetsetsyntax-alternative-typehinting-syntax

One question that still needs to be discussed is what syntax regarding
parentheses we want to use if this makes it. Currently both set { } and
set($foo) { } style accessors are supported. Do we want to keep those two
with the new syntax?

Nikita

PS: I hope I'm not interrupting all those heated annotations discussion too
much ^^

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