On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Tyler Sommer <somme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Annotations are already a part of PHP. They are widely used in one of the > most prolific frameworks, Symfony, and it's ORM "counterpart" Doctrine. > Both of which are serious drivers of the PHP community. It's > even potentially spreading to Zend Framework: > > http://zend-framework-community.634137.n4.nabble.com/Annotations-own-implementation-or-Doctrine-Commons-td4655427.html > > To say "they shouldn't be part of PHP" is fine, but it's too late for that. > Annotations are already here. Are we going to just ignore this fact and > hold back what a very significant portion of the community wants to see > because it conflicts with some ambiguous master plan for PHP? > > > Cheers. > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Adam Harvey <ahar...@php.net> wrote: > > > On 10 January 2013 03:00, Anthony Ferrara <ircmax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Well, the point is that there are two ways of voicing your dislike. You > > can > > > say "I never want this" or other rhetoric, which helps nobody else but > to > > > understand that you don't want it. Or you can be a little bit more > civil > > > and reply detailing your concerns, and say "Based on that, I don't like > > > it". > > > > Amaury has a point, though. > > > > Personally, I don't think annotations belong in PHP. Now, I can > > explain why based on my use of Symfony and Doctrine, but that suggests > > that I'm going to change my mind when truthfully, I'm almost certainly > > not going to — it's a difference of philosophy, rather than something > > specific to the RFC or the patch. > > > > So my dilemma is this: how do I voice this (without simply a drive-by > > -1 vote, which isn't really helpful either, and is overly discouraging > > to the people who've put a lot of work in to polish the feature up) > > without being shouted down for being unhelpful or uncivil? > > > > Adam, who isn't touching the rest of this discussion with a ten foot > pole. > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > You've touched the main point I think we should consider - we're contributing for the community - if the community wish so much that feature, that they've hacked some other (doccomment) in order to get their desired result - I think that this is the best evidence that we should include that in the language - the community really wish to have it.