On Apr 16, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Kris Craig <kris.cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Ferenc Kovacs <tyr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> Just to play devil's advocate (Satan and I go way back), what about
>>>> people who are established PHP developers but who generally don't
>>>> participate in the development/discussion of PHP core?  An argument could
>>>> be made that, as the users of PHP, they should be able to have some say in
>>>> its development.  That's not my position, mind you; I'm just throwing that
>>>> premise out there to see if it holds up.  =)
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> could you please open a separate thread for that?
>>> btw. "regular participant of internals discussions" is one of the reason
>>> on which group someone can get voting karma.
>>> so if that is provided, anybody have a chance to get join
>>> the decision making process.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Ferenc Kovács
>>> @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
>>> 
>> 
>> Why would that be a separate thread?  Isn't that what we're talking
>> about?  I.e. determining who gets voting access and who doesn't?
> 
> 
> I just ask for clarification on how the community representatives (which is
> defined in the accepted voting RFC) can get their karma.
> You are talking about changing the requirements for somebody to be able to
> participate in the voting, thus changing/extending the original RFC.

The voting RFC is unclear but aside from that, there are two non-vcs 
accounts with voting karma today:

  User: damz:  Damien Tournoud - d...@damz.org
  User: hywan: Ivan Enderlin   - ivan.ender...@hoa-project.net

Not saying they should or should not, but just saying. And I'm not sure 
how/when they received the voting karma but it happened.

Regards,
Philip
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