+1 as well, I start a new thread for that. This debate is major for PHP's futur.
I'm little frustrated about this thread, I don't have any new argument for or against the enum proposal. 2012/2/27 Clint M Priest <cpri...@zerocue.com> > +1 for that as well. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kris Craig [mailto:kris.cr...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 7:48 PM > To: John Crenshaw > Cc: Arvids Godjuks; internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Enum proposal (yet another) > > Well said, John! I think that's a terrific idea! > > --Kris > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 5:44 PM, John Crenshaw <johncrens...@priacta.com > >wrote: > > > > From: Kris Craig [mailto:kris.cr...@gmail.com] > > > > > > I actually agree as well. Looking back in the thread, I think my > > > overly broad use of the word "strict" might have led to some > > > confusion over what I'm advocating. > > > > Honestly, this is the biggest problem that the typing debates have had. > > Someone advocates "strict typing" when they really mean "weak typing" > > (as opposed to the current "dynamic typing") but there's always a > > group of people that assume they mean "strict strict strict typing > > like the old C days". People then panic and get frustrated because the > > plethora of problems with adding this level of restriction to PHP have > > already been discussed extensively. Discussion then devolves into > > denigration and then finally disintegrates completely. > > > > If we can agree on some basic terminology I think it would move things > > forward considerably. I propose these terms: > > - "Strict Typing" means the super strict old C style typing that has > > been proven to be ridiculous in this environment because of the > > obvious problems inherent in the fact that almost every input is a > string. > > - "Weak Typing" means types in the same sense that the PHP > > documentation uses types (for example, the docs indicate > > substr(string, integer), and substr(12345, "2") == "345".) > > - "No Scalar Typing" should be used to indicate the current system > > (where there is no provision for hinting at scalar types.) > > > > In addition, if someone potentially new expresses support for "Strict > > Typing", let's assume that they really mean weak typing unless proven > > otherwise (this is by far the more likely intent.) Politely clarify > > terminology so that everyone can be on the same page. If someone still > > insists that they want "Strict Typing", point them to the prior > > discussions on the topic which explain exactly what the problems with > this are. > > > > It might be wise to maintain a wiki article to keep track of the 3 > > different levels of typing, as well as a summary of the typical > > arguments pro and con for each of the 3. If people agree that this > > would be helpful, I'm willing to dig through the archives and try to put > this together. > > > > John Crenshaw > > Priacta, Inc. > > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Samuel DEAL samuel.d...@gmail.com Tél : +36 (0) 6.01.29.75.85 Adresse : 44, rue Jean Jaurès 92170 Vanves
