> From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] 
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Time zone database shut down by legal threat
> 
> Pierre Joye wrote:
> > See the blog post itself for more information. They create a mailing
> > list to create an alternative database but not to argue about the
> > legal case. I would suggest to discuss things there instead.
> 
> I had no doubt that the data would continue to exist, and it has been 
> confirmed 
> that it will be updated on the Australian site. The remaining question is "Is 
> there any problem using that data to update the PHP version?" Since there are 
> apparently already a number of corrections in the pipeline ... ;)
> 
> -- 
> Lester Caine - G8HFL

IANAL but yes, if the copyright claim is determined to be valid I'm sure they 
could go after anyone else that continues to reproduce it (using the Olsen 
database or a derivative in a software product like PHP or Linux would 
certainly apply.) If for some reason this holds up in court, I would not be at 
all surprised to see them go after a larger (more lucrative) target next.

Also, as far as I understand willful copyright violation (you knew about the 
copyright claim and reproduced the work anyway) is a much more expensive 
mistake than something less deliberate. The safest thing for PHP is probably to 
immediately stop bundling the Olsen database or derivatives until this issue is 
sorted. Since that isn't really possible or practical, I think a next best 
option would be to (at least for now) remove the portion of the data that is in 
dispute (as far as I understand this is just historical pre-1991 US TZ data?).

I'm not sure what impact this has on distribution of current and/or previous 
versions of PHP but I worry that it isn't pretty.

Obviously the issue is big enough that legal counsel should be involved if 
possible.

John Crenshaw
Priacta, Inc.

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