Hello, On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:39 AM, David Coallier <dav...@php.net> wrote: > Hey all, > > Let me start by saying that this is merely an idea I'm trying to put > together and before doing so, I need to see who would be interested.
First let me start by saying I like the initiative to get more active internals development. If you ask me, PHP could be much better if it was easier to participate and the system for doing so was better. One key I think to your proposal is the mentors portion, if I had direct access to a developer with karma I would much more inclined to help and submit patches. One thing that should be remembered about open source projects is the only real incentive a mentee has for working on it (for most) is that little bit of satisfaction gained from contributing a small piece to a project that you regularly use or believe in. I personally have tried several times over the years to get more involved but patches usually sit for months, or years inside the bug tracker till they are out of date or fixed by a core developer. Even submitting them to this list ends up rotting at times (I.E. [1]). This ends up being discouraging and likely has blocked me from making some serious contributions, I know I am not alone here. There are plenty of developers who may know the internals of PHP very well from working for private companies or recreational hacking, but feel such a resistance or large gap between core developers and themselves they give up or move on. Couple things I would love to see from this program, and in general.. - It would just be great to work out some heavier internal documentation. C Code is good documentation I get that, but would be nice for some high level documentation on the more cryptic areas of PHP (zendmm, execution life cycle, etc) - Process for new developers to get their patches and work in, the bug tracker could be this maybe it just needs more eyes? I want to make it clear that I have been very pleased to see all the RFCS that developed over the years and the gap between core developers and everyone else has seemed to close a lot. I hope this continues and some of the kinks of this idea are worked out of this Mentor/Mentee program and it develops into something great so we can see faster adoption of new technologies into PHP and maybe some kind of target zero goal for all bugs. -Chris [1] http://marc.info/?l=php-internals&m=125589606407945 -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
