On Fri, 3 Jun 2011, Stas Malyshev wrote: > > - a call to vote is easily drowned out on the ML with all the noise > > I read the same ML as you do :) Using threaded email client it is very > easy to separate new threads and see calls for votes.
That is subjective. And even with a threaded client, if there are 80+ new messages then the call for vote is drowned out. *Requiring* something like [VOTE] in the subject helps, as then you can set-up a filter. And if it's a requirement, every call without [VOTE] in the subject is invalid. (Easy to fix if somebody forgot it as well). It would expose this kind of thing. > Also, voting on ML does not solve the "drowning out" problem, it makes > it worse as about 80% of the people in given vote in a given moment > can't say what they are/supposed to be voting for, is discussion still > ongoing and what's the consensus, if any. I didn't disagree with this. > > - editting votes on a wiki can too easily be manipulated (I could just > > change your votes, and there would be no trail). > > Votes are public, if you see somebody edited it you'd notice. As > editing could be done only by admins (if I understand correctly, same > guys having root on pretty much all PHP infrastructure) if a plugin is > used (see below) I don't think it's a big concern. > > > And IMO, those two things should be sorted out before we "decide" to do > > votes by editting some page on some wiki. > > docuwiki has voting plugins for that purpose, editing some page is not the > only way. For example: http://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:doodle2 There is no plugin used for it yet, and that's my problem with it. Derick -- http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php twitter: @derickr and @xdebug -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php