On 10 May 2011, at 12:04, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> performance problems, playing the bloated card, etc.), but they were
> overwhelmed by the positive feedback and the buzz about what can be further
> improved, etc.
> it seems that annotations lacked the critical mass when it was proposed. :(

From my perspective, getting Traits in was also a lot of hard work with respect 
to the community.
(Actually more then the technical details).
While there seemed to be quite some buzz in the general PHP world, internals 
was rather uninterested in the beginning.

The whole thing required a lot of, what I would characterize as, hand-holding.
Internals is not the most open community and needs not only good arguments, but 
persistence.
And, well, it also seem to require to get in touch with the right people...

And now the whole discussion about 5.4 goes again in a direction where it will 
probably be stalled in the end.
I am not to optimistic about an actual release date within 2011.

Best regards
Stefan


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