On Thu, 25 Nov 2010, Gustavo Lopes wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:05:43 -0000, Derick Rethans <der...@php.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 25 Nov 2010, Davey Shafik wrote:
> > 
> > > The goal then was to essentially take the 5.3 branch, create a 5.4 
> > > branch, cherry pick commits to trunk and apply them to the 5.4 
> > > branch and end up with a stable build. Unfortunately, subversion 
> > > merging sucks.
> > 
> > This has nothing to do with any sort of version control sucking. 
> > Cherry picking is hard! It only works if you get one feature in one 
> > commit, instead of many several, with other changes in between, 
> > without many dependices between patches. PHP isn't like that, 
> > especially with Dmitry's engine changing patches.
> 
> Yes, cherry picking is not as easy as people assume they are, because 
> many changes depend on each other and trunk has a fair quantity of 
> these.
> 
> I think trunk should be the starting point for 5.4; as to type 
> hinting, I'm neutral as to the status quo.

Yes, I also think trunk should be 5.4. It's not the most ideal thing 
though, but something we'll have to live with. It's going to be a lot 
less of a hassle than cherry picking trunk's features and graft them 
onto 5.3.

> However, this is all orthogonal to this thread, what's important is 
> that we agree on the formalities proposed so that we can proceed to 
> these material issues.

I don't know. The release process discussion can run at the same time 
and be ready for 5.5. That even allows us to refine it while we're 
trying out the current proposal.

Derick

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