On 03/23/2010 04:02 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > In conclusion: > There should of course be fun in just hacking out cool stuff, but I think for > most developers a big part of the fun is actually seeing your ideas in a > stable release.
Exactly. But that means we need to wait and see which developers step up and actually commit their code to trunk. You can create all the shopping lists you want and set all the dates you want, but they are irrelevant until we see some of this stuff hashed out via rfcs and then reviewed once actually committed to trunk. PHP development stalled in large part because we had lists of features without developers passionate about those features. So, less lists, and more coding for a while, please. We've got 2 small commits to trunk so far. I switched our default charset from ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8, and Michael added FNV hashing. Both minor changes, but we need to encourage more of these smaller incremental improvements in the dev branch and not discourage them because they weren't on a list somewhere before a certain date. Release dates slide because of a lack of developers, not because we have too many people committing stuff. Having a lot of people committing code is a good problem to have and the release manager(s) will sort it out eventually. -Rasmus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php