Hi

I have tried to catch up to the discussion yesterday evening. I must admit its not very trivial for me to understand the entire scope of the issues. I am especially worried about things becoming too magical (although in general I am pro giving end users all the power in the world). At this point I am beginning to wonder if we maybe should drop any special OO handling from closures for now and leave it to the next bigger release to decide if to readd it.

We have worked through the challenge of getting namespaces worked out in 5.3, adding yet another increasingly heavy feature to the syntax would delay us if we really want to make sure we get it right. Screwing up would get us into a world of hurt and to me the main use case we wanted to address was making it easier to define callbacks for our various internal functions.

This is just my "managament" level view point given the discussion at this stage and the goal to get PHP 5.3 out the door without delay from any feature (since we have enough features to release even if we remove one or two features).

regards,
Lukas

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