Hello Andi,

  good, and sorry but I really need more tests. Especially some that show
how we do with all the different BOMs.

marcus

Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 1:35:03 AM, you wrote:

> Yes I understand but unfortunately I don't speak Japanese. Rui, is it
> possible for you to try and get more involvement from the team that worked on 
> this and get more tests?

> Btw, I think if we use the existing infrastructure Rui and the team built
> (see no big reason why not for 5.3) then we can also go somewhat lighter
> on the amount of testing as there'll be less chances for breakage.

> Andi

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marcus Boerger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 4:36 PM
>> To: Andi Gutmans
>> Cc: Alan Knowles; Johannes Schlüter; Hannes Magnusson; Rui Hirokawa;
>> internals@lists.php.net
>> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP's Zend multibyte support
>> 
>> Hello Andi,
>> 
>>   claiming you have heard doesn't bring us any further though. Please
>> provide tests other wise I cannot fix and reimplement what is there.
>> Right
>> now I only got one extremely basic test that only checks for a very
>> very
>> limited part of what the stuff is designed for.
>> 
>> marcus
>> 
>> Monday, March 24, 2008, 11:15:21 PM, you wrote:
>> 
>> > I think many of these encodings are still very much alive. I am
>> pretty
>> > sure that still a large amount of the Japanese market uses Shift-JIS.
>> The
>> > majority of the tools/text editors use this format as opposed to UTF-
>> 8.
>> 
>> > Andi
>> 
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Alan Knowles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 8:13 AM
>> >> To: Johannes Schlüter
>> >> Cc: Hannes Magnusson; Marcus Boerger; Rui Hirokawa;
>> >> internals@lists.php.net
>> >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP's Zend multibyte support
>> >>
>> >> Reading through this, It looks like this is aimed at Big5/shiftJS/?
>> >> maybe korean??
>> >>
>> >> I know from HK and probably TW, who use Big5 (traditional chinese
>> >> encoding), that it's pretty much been phased out with the
>> introduction
>> >> of unicode (basically AFAIR Windows 95/98/ME/NT chinese editions
>> used
>> >> these encodings, latter versions of windows have used UTF8). This
>> >> tended
>> >> to be an issue that old browsers on these platforms tended to need
>> Big5
>> >> encoded web pages, so alot of stuff was written at Big5.
>> >>
>> >> Basically I don't think these days (in the last 3 years at least)
>> >> anyone
>> >> develops sites that target Big5, (we all use UTF8) and if they do,
>> it's
>> >> probably only done as a last stage iconv conversion.
>> >>
>> >> So is there a current need for this? - or is it just a legacy issue,
>> >> which could be dropped anyway for PHP6?
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> Alan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Johannes Schlüter wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 15:26 +0100, Hannes Magnusson wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>>  You can provide a --SKIPIF-- section to detect MB support
>> >> (http://qa.php.net/write-test.php ).
>> >> >>>  --SKIPIF--
>> >> >>>  <?php
>> >> >>>  if (!in_array("detect_unicode", array_keys(ini_get_all()))) {
>> >> >>>   die "skip Requires --enable-zend-multibyte option";
>> >> >>>
>> >> >> WTF? Where did that INI entry come from? :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It isn't in php.ini-dist and the only docs I can find is
>> >> >> (http://no.php.net/manual/en/ini.php):
>> >> >> detect_unicode     "1"     PHP_INI_ALL     Available since PHP
>> >> 5.1.0.
>> >> >> Removed in PHP 6.0.0.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > According to my research when the MB issues popped up that setting
>> >> was
>> >> > added as a hack to help the scanner to have less confusion with
>> it's
>> >> > encoding detection when using __HALT_COMPILER(); There's an
>> internals
>> >> > discussion, but i don't have it at hand right now.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Is it really PHP_INI_ALL? That doesn't make much sense to me. I
>> >> >> thought the multibyte scanning was compile time?
>> >> >> (Or is it like the current short_tags proposal;
>> >> >> ini_set("detect_unicode"); include "..."; ?)
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, it's for the latter, I guess.
>> >> >
>> >> > johannes
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
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>> 
>> Best regards,
>>  Marcus





Best regards,
 Marcus


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