Hello Pierre,

Saturday, March 22, 2008, 10:01:31 PM, you wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Pierre Joye wrote:
>>
>>  > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  > > On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
>>  > >
>>  > >  > > You can't actually use the class name "DateFormatter" when you want
>>  > >  > > pecl/intl to be in core. "Date" is the prefix for the already 
>> existing Date
>>  > >  > > extension.
>>  > >  >
>>  > >  > I think we still can name it DateFormatter, especially if we plan 
>> (and we do,
>>  > >  > as I understand) to merge DateFormatter functions with ext/date in 
>> PHP 6, and
>>  > >  > we don't have any conflict now and we do not have any plans to have
>>  > >  > DateFormatter in ext/date (correct me if I'm wrong here).
>>  > >
>>  > >  You're wrong. We can rename it later *if* it gets merged into ext/date,
>>  > >  but you can't simply use a classname with a prefix that conflicts with
>>  > >  something else. Merging it would most likely change API anyway.
>>  >
>>  > I rather prefer to have this class (and related) within the ext/date
>>  > extensions. It is the only way to have a consistent and working
>>  > date/time API in php. Date/time formatting is part of this API.
>>
>>  I've mentioned that from the beginning (and started experimenting a bit
>>  with it already as date_format_locale()), but apparently that's not the
>>  "correct" way.

> I don't want to start yet another rant but there is two things that
> rather annoy me here:

> 1. I never heard of this mailing list, my question about its origin
> and whether is public or not has been simply ignored
> 2. It seems that there is no way to change minds of some employee(s)
> of some company(ies)

> The 2. is annoying and we have ways to force a choice, that does not
> worry me too much. But 1. is yet another step in the wrong direction.

In case you were speaking of [EMAIL PROTECTED], then I have to agree
as that one should not be used to decide about anything in PHP. There is an
official list [EMAIL PROTECTED] out there that should serve for
decisions on PHP's internationalization.

Best regards,
 Marcus


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