I agree with some (if not most) of your positions on namespaces and I do think the work you've put on this issue is valuable. However, I just fail to see who, other than people with karma on php-src (and that excludes me) could decide what the implementation will be in the end.
In the end, I think you're right though, some people will not like it and some will. That's how painful life is. Sorry if I was too harsh on you. On 7/23/07, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Despite all the comments made on this list by countless people, it's still > Stanislav's way or the highway. I don't want to sound negative but come No it isn't. If you failed to make convincing argument on one particular case, it in no way means that I am deaf to any argument at all - it just means your particular argument didn't convince me as of yet. > on... this is getting ridiculous. Stanislav, why don't you just tell > everybody that you'll stop answering because the patch will stay AS IT IS > over your dead body anyway ? I think you'll save us all some time. Because it's not true. We consulted with many people before this proposal, and we got positive feedbacks from yet more people after we made this proposal. Of course, there are people that have different opinion. But there's a difference between discussing opinions and dismissing other's opinion as illogical brain-dead stubbornness. I think I took a lot of effort in explaining my position - in many cases much more than opposing side did, when some people pretty much summed up with "your proposal is crap, it's not like Java, so I have no use for it". I will continue to put an effort in explaining. I however would not change my position just because somebody feels sore when his argument turns out not be as persuasive as he thought it would be. > This discussion is endless and not productive. I can't speak for anybody Make it productive. Propose something productive. By that I mean a consistent concept that will be superior to existing one. Or at least a consistent amendment to existing concept that would improve it. > here but I think a vote by all people who have commit access to php-src > would clarify this issue once and for all so we can just move along. I don't think these issues have to be decided by arithmetics. Of course, writing "+1" is much easier than spending a month on researching possible solution, considering all implications of each one and figuring out the optimal one - but I don't see any value in the former unless the latter was done. That doesn't mean expressing an opinion is to be discouraged - but there's more than sum of +1-es to make an informed decision that is going to influence PHP for years to come. I welcome everybody to make a contribution and discuss things - but please do not assume if you have an opinion everybody would agree. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Nicolas Bérard-Nault ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Étudiant D.E.C. Sciences, Lettres & Arts Cégep de Sherbrooke Homepage: http://nicobn.googlepages.com
