On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:22:00 -0500 (CDT), "Richard Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> You saw it in PHP 3/4.
>
> And it can LOOK from the outside like you're doing it, using a
> ProxyPass from one Apache box to another.
>
> But I'm pretty sure you can't get both versions into one build, as the
> symbols collide big-time during the configure/make process...
Actually I read an article a couple of mos. ago where someone shared their
experience installing two versions on their box - 4 as the base (default)
install and 5 as the supplementary version. It was done as Apache modules.
The default was installed as any PHP version might be done, and 5 was
installed in the same $prefix but in the php5 directory - as opposed to the
php directory. This permitted the use of php version; by extension, per
directory, and/or by the use of .htaccess. Many others followed his article
and attempted to do it themselves. But reported failure. Turns out that the
one thing all failed attempts had in common was their OS (Linux). Linux
has a less efficient/flexible loading mechanism than *BSD(i). Which (as
you noted) causes symbol collision. The article was quite old, so I was
unable to get the beginnings of it. So perhaps Linux has since made some
provisions that overcome this problem (newer kernels). Anyway, I was hoping
that some with a similar (working) experience might share it here. As I'm
sure that ability would lend itself to generating an increased interest in
installing 5 (or 6) along with their base 4 install. It would also shorten
any attempt on my part to do the same. :)
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
P.S. Please don't top post. It buggers up the threads and breaks context.
>
> On Mon, July 9, 2007 6:19 pm, chris# wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 14:38:03 -0700, Andrei Zmievski
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Yes, backporting major features from PHP 6 to 5 will slow down PHP 6
>>> adoption, and I'd like to avoid it if possible.
>>>
>>> There is a way to run two engines side by side, by the way: in
>>> separate instances of Apache. It's really not that complicated.
>>
>> Isn't there some evidence of the ability to run two engines
>> side-by-side
>> with only one instance of Apache; thereby eliminating some overhead?
>> Wouldn't that actually be easier?
>> I could have sworn I saw that somewhere.
>>
>>>
>>> -Andrei
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2007, at 6:13 AM, Stefan Priebsch wrote:
>>>
>>>> IMHO backporting a lot of features to PHP4 is a major reasons for
>>>> the
>>>> slow PHP5 adoption. Basically, it seems that everybody who is not
>>>> using
>>>> OOP feels that PHP4 is fine for them.
>>>>
>>>> I'd say committing to backporting stuff from PHP6 to PHP5 will
>>>> yield a
>>>> similar situation: very slow or no PHP6 adoption.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, can't the unicode switch be done at compile time? So one can
>>>> compile PHP6 Unicode and PHP6 non-Unicode. Then if there is a
>>>> clever way
>>>> of running both engines in parallel, there should be no performance
>>>> impact inside the non-unicode engine. Since there is both versions
>>>> of
>>>> the engine (that can maybe even selected by a certain statement in
>>>> the
>>>> main PHP file of the application), unicode and non-unicode users
>>>> are
>>>> happy. And there is only one version of PHP in the market, to
>>>> conquer it
>>>> all.
>>>>
>>>> There must be a reason to upgrade to a new PHP version (usually
>>>> features, maybe performance increase etc.). But there also must be
>>>> no
>>>> reason not to upgrade. But you all know this, it has been said
>>>> before.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Stefan
>>>>
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