Hi Oliver,

I was just trying to make a case for removing those ASP short tags (at least) by advocating to remove short tags all together in the long run.

I didn't mean executing PHP documents with PHP. I meant that it should be possible to use PHP documents with other (XML-based) tools/software.


-Bart



Oliver Block wrote:
        
Hi Bart,

is that a topic on the todo list? Are you going to make php6 xml-parsable? Or
what else could be the reason for xml standard compliance. As far as I know,
php is parsed by its own language parser. Forgive me if I am not savvy to the
future plans of the php group.

Regards,

Oliver


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Betreff: Re: [PHP-DEV] dropping asp_tags in HEAD
Gesendet: So, 15. Apr 2007
Von: Bart de Boer<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The XML standard...

HTML 4.01 compliance seems a bit trivial since there's already so much forgiveness going on around that spec anyway...



Oliver Block wrote:
Am Samstag, 14. April 2007 11:49 schrieb Bart de Boer:
PHP's convention is currently
responsible for people creating non-standards-compliant documents... And
I think we should take that responsibility and clean up the mess we
made... The XML spec is outside our scope... What's inside <?php tags is
our business...
About which standard are you talking?

Regards,

Oliver

Tijnema ! wrote:
On 4/14/07, Bart de Boer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think ASP tags should go too... Simply because it's not standards
compliant and I think it's good if people are forced to make nice
standards compliant documents... I'd even go so far as to favor
dropping
short tags too...

<? echo "<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>n"; ?>

What a mess!...
What about the even shorter version:
<?="<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>n"; ?>

That's real ugly code...

Tijnema

Guilherme Blanco wrote:
I really can't see a reason to mantain ASP tags.

Ok, short tags is good because of <?=$something?>, but it doesn't
behavior well with XML documents. So, if your intention is to change
short tags to ASP tag in a near future, ok. ASP tags does not mix XML
documents.
Otherwise, ASP tags is the most useless thing I've ever heard in PHP
sphere. I really don't know why wasn't it dropped in PHP5.

That's what I think... IMHO.


[]s,

On 4/13/07, Tijnema ! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 4/13/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, April 13, 2007 9:16 am, Tijnema ! wrote:
I don't see why you are all against dropping the ASP tags. I see
people using ASP & PHP in one script, what would that do? If
ASP runs

first then there isn't a problem, but if PHP runs first, it would
execute the ASP code.
There are actually people running both PHP and ASP in series to
generate HTML?

If they are, they can turn ASP tags *OFF* in php.ini

And they certainly aren't going to be distributing that setup
outside

their own little world...
I've seen such code on the net some time ago...

But should you distribute PHP code with ASP tags? That's not good
either i think. So there's no use of the ASP tags, and they can only
interfere with ASP.

Tijnema



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