Maybe I'm missing something here, but why should PHP be compliant with a standard that absolutely has nothing to do with the language (c.f.: XML) ? Isn't it obvious that a file with the extension .php is NOT an XML file ? It seems to me the short tags issue is starting to become a bikeshed argument...
Again, sorry if I'm missing the point. On 4/14/07, Bart de Boer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I feel I can't disagree with my hero. :) But is that really so? The XML spec says: PI ::= '<?' PITarget (S (Char* - (Char* '?>' Char*)))? '?>' Doesn't Char* mean any char? All the parsers seem to accept '>' inside PI's without problems too. Furthermore... PHP may not be the most beautiful of languages... But that doesn't mean it has to be ugly... -Bart Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > PHP was never meant to win any beauty contests, nor to enforce > standards. If you want to take your argument to its logical conclusion > then you have to also take the next step and not allow literal entities > inside the PHP blocks, because that is also not standards compliant. > That means you cannot write: > > <?php if($a > 10) foo() ?> > > You would have to change it to: > > <?php if($a > 10) foo() ?> > > And that's just a simple example of that. > > -Rasmus > > Bart de Boer wrote: > >> And let me stress that this is something we're *forcing* people to do >> when they're on a short tags enabled server... It's not something >> they're allowed to do at free will... PHP's convention is currently >> responsible for people creating non-standards-compliant documents... And >> I think we should take that responsibility and clean up the mess we >> made... The XML spec is outside our scope... What's inside <?php tags is >> our business... >> >> >> >> Tijnema ! wrote: >> >>> On 4/14/07, Bart de Boer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> I think ASP tags should go too... Simply because it's not standards >>>> compliant and I think it's good if people are forced to make nice >>>> standards compliant documents... I'd even go so far as to favor dropping >>>> short tags too... >>>> >>>> <? echo "<?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UTF-8\" ?>\n"; ?> >>>> >>>> What a mess!... >>>> >>> What about the even shorter version: >>> <?="<?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UTF-8\" ?>\n"; ?> >>> >>> That's real ugly code... >>> >>> Tijnema >>> >>>> Guilherme Blanco wrote: >>>> >>>>> I really can't see a reason to mantain ASP tags. >>>>> >>>>> Ok, short tags is good because of <?=$something?>, but it doesn't >>>>> behavior well with XML documents. So, if your intention is to change >>>>> short tags to ASP tag in a near future, ok. ASP tags does not mix XML >>>>> documents. >>>>> Otherwise, ASP tags is the most useless thing I've ever heard in PHP >>>>> sphere. I really don't know why wasn't it dropped in PHP5. >>>>> >>>>> That's what I think... IMHO. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> []s, >>>>> >>>>> On 4/13/07, Tijnema ! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 4/13/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, April 13, 2007 9:16 am, Tijnema ! wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't see why you are all against dropping the ASP tags. I see >>>>>>>> people using ASP & PHP in one script, what would that do? If >>>>>>>> >>>> ASP runs >>>> >>>>>>>> first then there isn't a problem, but if PHP runs first, it would >>>>>>>> execute the ASP code. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are actually people running both PHP and ASP in series to >>>>>>> generate HTML? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If they are, they can turn ASP tags *OFF* in php.ini >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And they certainly aren't going to be distributing that setup >>>>>>> >>>> outside >>>> >>>>>>> their own little world... >>>>>>> >>>>>> I've seen such code on the net some time ago... >>>>>> >>>>>> But should you distribute PHP code with ASP tags? That's not good >>>>>> either i think. So there's no use of the ASP tags, and they can only >>>>>> interfere with ASP. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tijnema >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >>>>>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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