I proposed several times to make the process more formal, with a real RFC 
process. It does not
have to be more complex than what the Zend Framework uses. I never had any 
reply...

As time passes, I also start to be fed up with these feature removals. I also 
start suspecting 
some people to have an interest in the current lack of transparency concerning 
the decision 
process in general.

IMO, the mailing list is not the best tool for RFCs, and we all know that a 
number of 
interesting proposals were ignored because :

        - either there was another discussion/flamewar going on at the same 
time, and it was lost 
in the flow.
        - or the proposal did not come from a group of ~10/15 core people. I am 
pretty sure that 
most of these people only read messages coming from their peers. It is OK 
because they 
certainly cannot read everything, but it illustrates the need for another space 
for RFCs.

The other reason why I want a dedicated RFC space is history. Every day, you 
see messages 
saying 'I don't remember...', 'what did we decide... ?'. There is no place with 
decision 
history. So, the same subject is regularly discussed again and again.

I am sure you will appreciate that the only document we have to justify 
removing ereg from the 
core distribution is in http://www.php.net/~derick. Sorry to say that, Derick, 
but please admit 
that this kind of information should go to a more 'official' place.

Regards

Francois

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 6:52 PM
> To: internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE : [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: 
> php-src(PHP_5_2) / run-tests.php
> 
> 
> On that note - is there a formal process in place for 
> deciding what gets moved from PCEL to 'Optional Extension' 
> and vice-versa?  Who has final say in the matter?
> 
> -- Jim
> 
> On 2/9/07, LAUPRETRE François (P) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg wrote:
> > >
> > > > I read this as saying we're removing the entire ereg extension 
> > > > from PHP 6. If that's not true, then never mind.
> > >
> > > http://www.php.net/~derick/meeting-notes.html#move-ereg-to-pecl
> >
> > From what I read there, it was decided to unbudle the regex library 
> > and to make ereg an extension, not to move this new ereg 
> extension to 
> > PECL. There is a big difference
> > between making ereg an optional feature and moving it to PECL !
> >
> > So, as I am tired to see features I use every day planned 
> for removal 
> > from the core, I'd like to see another justification. IMHO, 
> the ereg 
> > extension should be changed
> > to an optional extension, but bundled with the PHP distribution.
> >
> > François
> >
> >
> >
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