On Tue, December 19, 2006 09:29, Lester Caine wrote:
> Robert Cummings wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 04:54 +0000, Lester Caine wrote:
>>
>>> Richard Lynch wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, December 16, 2006 7:03 am, Lester Caine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Of cause many of us never go near the raw database calls anyway,
>>>>> since we are using frameworks that carry out lot of the security
>>>>> checks at a generic level - so I see little point adding more
>>>>> checks at a level that major projects do not use anyway?
>>>> Because some of us don't use the bloated frameworks, often because
>>>> those who develop the bloated frameworks didn't do filtering
>>>> properly, perhaps because they didn't have a taint mode to notify
>>>> them that they were writing sub-standard code. :-) :-) :-)
>>>>
>>> The annoying thing is that PHP seems to be becoming the bloatware.
>>> PHP4,
>>> PHP5 incompatible versions, PHP6. Perhaps it would be nice to have a
>>> PHPLite that we can work with and add just the bits we need rather
>>> than having to manage updates which on the main add nothing to the
>>> functionality that we are actually using?
>>
>> Go for it. Compile your own. Mod the source code. This is the power of
>> open source.
>
> If I only had to support my own servers .....
> The problem is ISP's keep uploading the latest official releases and
> then we have to fix the faults fast :( PHP is a *SERVICE* that other people
> use and that service keeps getting broken - saying "Build your own" has no
> relevance what so ever :( Heck this is why PHP4 will never die - and I
> never used that.

Ignoring the fact that this is somewhat off-topic, why would ISPs use the
Lite version as opposed to the "bloated" version? Their users want
features, functions, they want PHP - why settle for the lesser version?
If you don't want taint support, because you feel it's bloat, do
--without-taint or disable it run-time (?)

Personally I'd love taint support, it'd make me feel ten times safer when
I code - knowing I didn't output tainted data, that I might output
wrongfully untainted data, well that's my problem.

// Tom

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