Hi aAndy

We didn't find a material difference between malloc() and mmap() though,
most probably because malloc() at these sizes actually calls mmap().
You can have good difference with the mremap() of Linux because it directly changes the vector into memory without recopying these data.

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Before beginning a benchmark I would like to speak about a serious problem that I have with TSRM/MM.

A S1 script carried out by thread T1 will use the same memory capacity as S2 script by T2 whereas theoretically separation is obligatory. In addition to the problem of safety, that cause also a problem of management of the load memory of the process father.

We define a father process P=while(1);

When a process father starts it must initialize tsrm_startup(), sapi_startup() and php_module_startup(). At this time all the additional functions and objects are loaded and usable by all script (what is normal).

With the creation of a thread one associates a TSRMLS to it. Then one carries out php_request_startup(), php_execute_script() and php_request_shutdown() to entirely enclose PHP/Zend.

With the execution of Sx script in Tx: the variables dynamics, static and constant of this one will be stored in AG(head).

The problem comes from there. It is impossible to destroy a memory which a script has just used because the process father continues to turn and nor php_request_shutdown(), php_module_shutdown(), sapi_shutdown() and tsrm_shutdown() will not be carried out AND THUS there will be a mem leak

I am very annoyed by this problem, it is necessary that I find a possibility to destroy these buffer.

Michael Vergoz

----- Original Message ----- From: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Michael Vergoz'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <internals@lists.php.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] FW: Help needed in benchmarking memory patch


Sorry I didn't make clear that only the malloc()/free() part works. The
mmap() and Win32 Allocation code is commented.
We didn't find a material difference between malloc() and mmap() though,
most probably because malloc() at these sizes actually calls mmap().
So really most important is for some ppl to run some benchmarks on this.

Thx.

Andi

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Vergoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 5:25 PM
To: Andi Gutmans; internals@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] FW: Help needed in benchmarking memory patch

Hi Andi,

I appreciated to see this code which I must still study.
Already a small remark it is that the system call mremap() is
not portable it is available only on Linux.
Then the size of the segments must always "be paginated" -
normally your code is good on this level.
I think that a concept of kernel-memory and user-memory can
be very interesting to study, especially in threads
environments - that I use.

I would continue to look at your code but now I will sleep (04:26 pm)!

mv-

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Andi Gutmans'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <internals@lists.php.net>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 5:57 PM
Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] FW: Help needed in benchmarking memory patch


> No help??? Come on guys. I'm sure some of you can spare a
few idle cycles
> :)
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andi Gutmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 8:38 PM
>> To: internals@lists.php.net
>> Subject: [PHP-DEV] FW: Help needed in benchmarking memory patch
>>
>> Sending 3rd time this time without the attachment.
>> You can get the diff at http://gutmans.org/alloc.zip
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andi Gutmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:06 PM
>> To: 'internals@lists.php.net'
>> Subject: Help needed in benchmarking memory patch
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Attached is a patch we've been working on to improve the
>> memory management of PHP. This patch's main advantage is
>> reducing the memory footprint of PHP, and therefore allowing
>> it to scale better. Although at low concurrencies the change
>> seems to be negligble, while testing at higher concurrencies
>> we saw significant improvement with this patch, mainly due to
>> lower memory usage.
>>
>> We would very much appreciate if people here tested this
>> patch and send in their results. It would help us understand
>> if others are getting consistent results with ours, and also
>> see whether there are any additional improvements we should make.
>>
>> This patch should apply cleanly to the PHP 5.2 CVS tree.
>> There's not much tuning that needs to be done. It uses
>> malloc() to allocate large memory blocks. You can control the
>> size of these blocks by setting the ZEND_MM_SEG_SIZE
>> environment variable before starting Apache/PHP. You may use
>> K or M to play around with the block size. The default we are
>> using is 256KB which seems to be a good balance.
>>
>> Any feedback would be appreciated!
>>
>> Andi
>>
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