I don't quite agree. I think there's a good chance people will want to save
Unicode strings in a binary format for performance reasons. Save it the way
it looks in memory, and put it back... Why convert to UTF-8 or any other
encoding if it's just about storage?

Andi 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sara Golemon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:15 PM
> To: "Ron Korving"
> Cc: internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: strlen() under unicode.semantics
> 
> > Still, it's gotta be useful to be know how many bytes it occupies. 
> > Perhaps for Content-length headers or something. There are 
> plenty of 
> > low level concepts to think of where one might need this. 
> And even if 
> > you can't think of any reason now, you don't wanna get hit 
> in the face 
> > by it and have to implement such a function for PHP 6.0.1.
> >
> For this type of usage, I'd think it'd be relevant to know 
> how many bytes the string will occupy in a given output 
> encoding moreso that what it happens to occupy in the 
> underlying implementation.  In the example you cited, string 
> contents will more typically be sent as utf8 rather than the
> utf16 of php's internal encoding.
> 
> $utf8str = unicode_encode($unistr, 'utf8');
> 
> header('Content-type: text/html; encoding="utf8"');
> header('Content-length: ' . strlen($utf8str)); echo $utf8str;
> 
> I'm not saying it's impossible that a legitimate use will 
> come up to know the internal byte-usage of a unicode string, 
> there's certainly no harm in adding such a function (apart 
> from the tired shot-foot argument).  I just doubt you (or 
> anyone) will come up such a case anytime soon.
> 
> -Sara 
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