Hmm,

Seems 'f' really make sense for simplification.
I am not sure about other helpers.
I'll need to review patch once again.
Could you include some use-cases (SPL patch that uses this one)?

Thanks. Dmitry.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcus Boerger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:19 PM
> To: Dmitry Stogov; internals@lists.php.net
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Andi Gutmans'; Zeev Suraski
> Subject: Re: MFHing zend_fcall_info_*() to 5.2
> 
> 
> Hello Dmitry,
> 
>   my patch doesn't change anything. If just adds stuff that 
> deals with defined functions only. If now you want to support 
> all functions that can be defined later it wouldn't work this 
> way (1). Actually it would require parsing the zval and 
> checking whether it might get callable in some future. While 
> this is the right solution for error handlers it is not the 
> right way for stuff like callback in array and SPL functions. 
> Once those are called the callback is used hence there is no 
> way it can suddenly come out of nowhere. My patch now 
> adresses this in a way that is much more efficient than doing 
> a two phase approach.
> 
> best regards
> marcus
> 
> (1) I experiemened with 'F' parsing that only verified if 
> something might get callable at some point. Though that 
> worked it was unneccessary slow for the intended purpose.
> 
> Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 8:29:01 AM, you wrote:
> 
> > Hi Marcus,
> 
> > We discussed the patch.
> 
> > Several notes:
> > PHP allowed pass callback function or method that is not 
> defined yet.
> > Your patch disallows this.
> 
> > <?php
> > some_internal_func("foo");
> > eval("function foo() {}");
> ?>>
> 
> > Usage of default values for functions will be problematic 
> with it. I 
> > don't think that we really need special case for 'callback' 
> afguments. 
> > (It would be good for strong-typed language).
> 
> > According to helpers, I would like suggest to add them into SPL  
> > itself and don't overload ZE.
> 
> I can do so but don't see sense in doing so.
> 
> best regards
> marcus
> 
> >> >Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 22:32:13 +0200
> >> >From: Marcus Boerger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >Reply-To: Marcus Boerger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >To: Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> >         Ilia Alshanetsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >Cc: internals@lists.php.net
> >> >Subject: MFHing zend_fcall_info_*() to 5.2
> >> >X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000475, 
> version=0.92.8
> >> >
> >> >Hello Andi, Zeev, Ilia,
> >> >
> >> >   the attached patch adds three new functions that make calling
> >> >functions a lot easier - at least for me in SPL. And it also 
> >> does a few
> >> >things correct which are probably overseen easily. The
> >> addition works
> >> >in HEAD already and paases all memcheck tests idid so far.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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