That's obviously not what I meant... but I've been in situations where there were LANs which were inaccessible by outside sources... Never mind.. Not worth the discussion :)

Andi

At 07:35 AM 3/14/2006, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
Andi Gutmans wrote:
At 07:13 AM 3/14/2006, Pierre wrote:
Intranet apps does not need to be secure? That's new to me.
Depends what it is. A lot have to be secure, but some don't. For example, some apps are on local networks (for example a group Wiki), which are inaccessible outside a specific group.

Unless of course people click on links in this internal Wiki which through the Referer leak details of what they are running which in turn leads to a nice email attack or a Referer back-attack with a link containing an XSS attack against this internal app. Bingo, we have just exploited an internal inaccessible application. Internal apps need a lot of scrutiny, perhaps even more so than public stuff since internal apps are likely to contain more sensitive information and people are tricked into thinking they shouldn't worry about them because attackers don't have direct access.

Not that I disagree with providing easy upgrade instructions. It gives us a chance to explain how to do things better. But we have to be very careful about never giving people the idea that security can be lax for an Intranet app.

-Rasmus

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