On 28 November 2005 09:50, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:

> > > BUT the discussion is not only about possibility but also about
> > > what you would like. The ":" for example would work if mandatory
> > > whitespace would be introduced for the ternary BUT this is very
> > > very bad. 
> 
> If my vote is counted (not that I asked for it :) then I vote against
> all funky syntax, present and future. :: is only thing that is
> obvious and somehow connected to the world of PHP as we know it now.


Wow!  I go home early on a Friday, and come back to a veritable php-dev flood 
in my Inbox! That must be the most active weekend since I started reading the 
list!!

My point of view is similar to Stanislav's: any operator chosen should have 
some echo of existing syntax -- this rules out the original suggestion of \ and 
many of the suggested alternatives.  I'm also completely against any solution 
that introduces new enforced whitespace, however unlikely the construct -- that 
just doesn't seem like "the PHP way".

The two existing "class to member" operators are :: and ->, so I'd be looking 
at analogues of these.  I'm not keen on :: itself performing double-duty here, 
and I hate ::: and most of the repeated-character suggestions (%%, .., **, 
etc.) -- especially as the single-character versions all have completely 
unrelated meanings.

This leaves me looking for something not dissimilar to ->.  It's a shame that 
=> is already taken, as that would have done nicely.  :> (or ::>), despite 
their smiley-ness, are actually quite clever suggestions, containing echoes of 
both :: and -> -- I'd be ok with either of these.  Another possibility I 
haven't seen offered, and that has strong echoes of ->, is ~>.  I can't see any 
conflicts here, it's sufficiently similar to be obviously related, but 
sufficiently different to be easily distinguished.

What do people think?

(Space for flame here...)



Cheers!

Mike

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