Goto exists in C. If you affirm that goto should not exist in PHP because it
gives the opportunity to screw their code to programmers, are you also
affirming that C programmers are smarter than PHP programmers ? Goto has had
a bad reputation for far too much time.

+1 for goto.

On 11/27/05, Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At 20:03 27/11/2005, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 07:54, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > Laughter has nothing to do with it.
> > >
> > > However, as discussed between those who attended the meeting in
> > > Paris, goto earned its bad connotations for a reason.
> >
> >Goto got it's bad name from when it was used to jump to line numbers. I
> >can't think of a case where jumping to a label within current cope is in
> >any way unclear.
> >
> > > It was agreed
> > > that providing a general-purpose C-goto equivalent is not a good idea
> > > because it *will* very quickly lead to spaghetti coding styles.  We
> > > also came to the conclusion that the main use case that is not
> > > covered by PHP today is that of 'centralized' error recovery, which
> > > requires forward jumping only (if it wasn't for that use case, I
> > > think we would have had consensus not to add any type of goto at all).
> > >
> > > So, the logical conclusion appeared to be:
> > >
> > > 1.  A forward-jumping construct only, to avoid giving users too much
> > > ammo to shoot themselves in the foot with spaghetti coding.
> >
> >I think it should be called "leap" given your arguments. Because I think
> >your having a "leap of faith" that you will EVER prevent bad developers
> >from shooting themselves in the foot.
>
> Read one of my past posts that deal with how compatibility-breakage
> is not binary but accumulating.  The same applies to abuseable
> features.  The easier we make it to abuse the language, the worse it would
> be.
>
> >IMHO you're marginalizing a useful operator to satisfy your perception
> >of the reputation of goto. I don't think that reputation is well
> >deserved, and I've never heard of spaghetti goto code in C... which as
> >we know does allow backward and forward jumping within scope (not to be
> >confused with none actually existing --- see previous comment about
> >prevention of foot shooting).
>
> You've never heard of spaghetti goto code in C?  I'm not sure if it's
> a joke or not (too tired to understand it if it is) - but I certainly
> have, and in the more distant past have seen quite a bit of it too.
>
> Zeev
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