Derick Rethans wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Leigh Makewell wrote:
Derick Rethans wrote:
I doubt any application would really stopped working - except for a friendly
notice when people wrote bad code.
Except if you had read Colin's messages you would see that his code *had*
stopped working.
But it just could as well have been because he was relying on the memory
corruptions. Hard to tell without code.
I would like to start by apologising for this message. It's long, it's a
rant, and I know this is probably not the place, but I can't let this
slide. This sort of comment really annoys me.
Zip it up Derick! Who do you think you are to dictate whether Colin's
code is good or bad?
You are very quickly starting to annoy a lot of PHP programmers. A quick
search on this topic will find quite a few news posts, and forum threads
discussing this issue, and I have seen you posting on a lot of them. You
seem to have a "So What" attitude and are very quick to tell all these
people that they are writing bad code and it's not your problem. We
don't appreciate being told that we write bad code. We don't appreciate
being treated as second rate programmers. We don't like being told that
a perfectly legal statement like this $x = current(explode(' ','a b'));
is wrong and bad programming!
Who are we? We are the top 10% of PHP programmers. We are the PHP coders
who take your language and manipulate it, coerce it, and gently push it
into doing things you never imagined it for. We are the few people who
actually use 100% of PHP's abilities. We are the ones who will notice
*every* time you make a change like this. Do you want PHP to be taken
seriously and used professionaly? Well *we* are the ones who decide that
PHP is ready for the big time, and if we believe that the floor is
constantly shifting under us and making our job harder then we will
leave. If we leave PHP will be nothing but a toy box language suitable
for nothing but basic little guestbook scripts coded by school children.
I have enjoyed using PHP since the first script I wrote with it. But I
am quickly losing that enjoyment, and not because of anything that has
happened to the language. I am losing it because I feel like the PHP
community does not respect it's users. As someone who works for a
company that specialises in creating, building, and maintaining online
communities I know how important good PR is. Like it or not PHP *is* an
online community and it can be made or broken by it's people. Letting
people like Derick here mouth off is not a good way to keep your
community happy.
Leigh.
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