Fair enough Wez :)

On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 20:34 -0400, Wez Furlong wrote:
> In some environments you *need* to run a zts enabled PHP.
> People that run in those environments can heed the warnings about
> potential stability issues, evaluate them, and decide whether it makes
> sense for their application.
> 
> I don't see any compelling need to rip out a feature that is essential
> for some platforms, just because it might not work so well on others.
> 
> --Wez.
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/25/05, John Coggeshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 23:09 +0300, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> > > There are almost no advantages to multithreaded PHP.  There are
> > > disadvantages (the reduced stability is inherent;  no matter how good PHP
> > > gets, multi-process deployments are by definition more
> > > robust).  Performance is slightly degraded too, so why bother?
> > 
> > > I'm not saying we should get rid of the thread safe mode, but frankly, the
> > > main reason is that it doesn't bother anybody and is useful for some
> > > people.  Not because I think we'll ever quite get there.
> > 
> > Why not just get rid of it then? (i.e. something as simple as just not
> > allowing it to be turned on at all) and instead provide a nice automated
> > fastCGI install in its place? I seem to recall seeing something
> > somewhere along the line about fastCGI being faster then prefork Apache
> > as well (there was a patch?), if I am remembering correctly wouldn't it
> > make sense to make that the default installation method across the
> > board? At the very least it makes sense for threaded environments
> > obviously...
> > 
> > John
> > 
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