DR>>If nobody as any better idea on how to solve it I'd like to start DR>>implementing it.
Some questions about the RFC: 1. What exactly property public $x = 1; means? I.e., first of all, what "1" means - does it mean that __get guarantees to return 1 on __get("x") if it was never set? Should PHP somehow take care of that or is it responsibility of __get writer? How PHP should act on this - should it define entry in the hashtable or should it just ignore it? What protected/private means there too? Would PHP have to take care for inheritance and if so - how will it be enforced so that __get can't be called for protected property? Altogether, problem (1) by itself has much easier solution - just add a keyword (or fix existing keywords) to phpdoc/doxygen allowing to document the thing without having language construct for it. I don't see why would phpdoc require PHP engine support concept of virtual property in order to document it. Afeter all, people routinely document code before even writing it ;) 2. I don't like having to go to reflection for finding out if it's defined or not. Also, would __have_prop be overridable and how it is different from __isset existing now? If it's overridable, I don't see why PHP engine needs anything to do with it - you always can write a method and name it __have_prop and call it :) If it's not - you will be asked to make it overridable almost instantly. So again I'm not sure what would be PHP support for this thing. 3. I recognise that there is a problem with __handlers diagnostics, but I don't see how returning true/false would help you - you wan't know what failure 'false' means still - what if there's another failure besides property not existing in __handler? -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zend.com/ +972-3-6139665 ext.115 -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php