Interesting point of view. I'd consider the majority of people on generals@
to be less "hardcore" and "pro" and more "beginner" like, since they're
usually coming there to ask questions. Hardcore PHP users needn't subscribe
to generals@ since they don't need to ask questions. Makes sense?

- David


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zeev Suraski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:53 PM
> To: George Schlossnagle
> Cc: George Schlossnagle; Jochem Maas; internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6.0 Wishlist
> 
> At 18:45 15/08/2005, George Schlossnagle wrote:
> 
> >On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> >
> >>(*) Based on the fact php-general@ has 787 subscribers and current
> >>estimates at the amount of PHP developers worldwide range between
> >>500,000 to 2,000,000 developers.  I actually got the opening number
> >>wrong - it's 99.84%, not 98.5%.  Sorry.
> >
> >You're probably being glib, but I don't think that being a dedicated,
> >professional PHP developer has much to do with being on any of the
> >lists.  Most of the people I know who do serious work in PHP
> >subscribe to none of the lists.php.net lists.  It's probably not the
> >best place to catch the pulse of the user-base.  If anything, I'd
> >assume that your own pro-services group and consulting partners would
> >have better insight into what people are doing with PHP.
> 
> That's exactly what I was saying (in another part of the email).  It
> doesn't work in reverse order though - being on one of these lists does
> usually mean that the developer is more 'hardcore' than others.
> 
> Zeev
> 
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