On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:16:29 +0200 (CEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derick Rethans) wrote:
> Objects are not harder to implement, I found it actually more > straight forward. Besides that, making it an object allows other > people to extend it, something that Pierre wants for his pecl/ > date. I do not want to extend a basic date object. This adds overheads for nothing. pecl/date was originally designed to be integrated in php, see: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-dev&m=104540995515576&w=2 Integrate it in ext/date, keeping full BC with existing functions as they do not change. When the implementations reach a stable state, we could have been able to use it inside the current functions and move them to ext/date. By the way, an object with basic method/properties and more "advanced" methods/ properties will not consume more memory, will not add overhead to people who does not want to use an object. > ? The way how they expose datatypes doesn't really differ. It's > just that *currently* I've no plans to add fancy methodnames. All > other functions on standard datatypes work with functions. This > falls IMO in the same category as not wanting a full blown String > class in the core of PHP. Even if I agree on you about a String class, you miss the point. A 12k buffer upper cased with current functions ends with 2x 12k buffers. About a date/time object, these values have much more properties. It is slighty more difficult to deal with them (non linear, exceptions, etc.). People needs to work with ranges, arythmetics. They also need some simple (and fast) function to get informations other than the current properties. Another additions are iterators, filtered iterators are a killing feature for people having to create complex calendar applications. a complex calendar applications is something else that the current month calendar displayed on every single blog out there. But words are sometimes useless, I will put my thoughts in pecl/ date. This is a perfect place to make experiments on an usefull APIs and get feedbacks. Once we (not only you and me but everyone having some clue) agree on the features and the specifications, we can then put in ext/date. Regards, --Pierre -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
