WF>>Bitching about code breakage for something that is not in public CVS
WF>>isn't going to win you any points.

Calling discussion about code "bitching" is not going to win you any
points either. I do not see why code that is not in public CVS is worse
than code that is or how breaking it is nicer than breaking code that is. 
I'm pretty sure I probably could find public code that would be broken by 
that too - I know a number of public code modules doing more or less the 
same my code does - I just don't see why it would matter even a 
slightest bit.

WF>>This code was added specifically so that include and require will
WF>>operate correctly on all php streams.  Not only that, but it has been

Can you please explain how converting FP to STREAM in fixup helps 
include/require? I don't see any benefit there.

WF>>there for quite a long time now; you've had plenty of time to raise
WF>>issues.

That's one hell of an argument. If I didn't notice it was broken before, 
then it stops being broken now? Try this with bug reports: "this bug was 
in PHP for so long, you had a lot of time to raise issues but you didn't, 
so we list it as a feature". Nice, eh? So please let's discuss it to the 
matter. 

WF>>If you need to call stat from within the engine, it can be added, but
WF>>you need to be aware that stat will not work in all cases, and the
WF>>fact that no other place in the engine needed it at the time it was
WF>>written explains why there is no stat prototype.

Once again. I do not say there should be stat. I say "FP should not
be converted to STREAM". That's it. Nothing more. I'm not against having 
STREAM type. I'm not against having FP type. I'm not agains having 
file_handle. Only thing I'm against is to have fixup function convert FP 
to STREAM and thus having STREAM mean "something you can just read and 
close" instead of "php_stream that you can read and close if you don't 
want to know about php_stream but if you want, you can do whatever 
php_stream can".

WF>>The purpose of the stream structure is not to save ifs, it's to allow
WF>>the engine to call into the php streams layer without a hard
WF>>dependency on PHP, which is something you guys have been touchy about
WF>>in the past.

But how converting FP to stream helps that? FP is not more PHP-dependant 
than STREAM. Only code for which this conversion matters - as far as I see 
now and you didn't yet brought any example on the contrary, it you have 
ones please bring them forth as I really want to see them - the only such 
code so far is zend_stream_read. zend_stream_read is perfectly capable of 
handling both FP and STREAM with very minimal effort - so what exactly is 
the benefit of converting FP to STREAM?

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