>From: "Jani Taskinen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Terje Slettebø wrote: > > >> From: "Jani Taskinen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Terje Slettebø wrote: > >> > >>> Why would it be ok there, but not in PHP? It also exists in other > > scripting > >>> languages, such as Python and Perl. > >> > >> PHP is not Perl or Python or <add-your-favorite-language-here>. > > > > That's not an argument against operator overloading. The question is why > > would it not be appropriate for PHP? Dynamic typing has been mentioned, and > > when I said that it exists in other dynamically typed languages, as well, I > > get the reply that "PHP is not language xxx". What kind of reply is that?! > > Quote from your mail: > > "Why would it be ok there, but not in PHP? It also exists in other scripting > languages, such as Python and Perl." > > Please explain me why it's okay for you to use the other-languages-card > but not for me? :)
Ok. The argument went something like this: I asked (although that was originally in another thread) about the possibility of getting operator overloading in PHP, and I presented reasons for why this may be useful. Then someone replied that PHP is dynamically typed, so it "doesn't fit the language". I countered with that there are other languages that are also dynamically typed, but where they do have operator overloading. Now, if the "doesn't fit the language" argument should stick, one could need to either: 1) Explain why it's a bad idea in these other languages, as well, or: 2) Explain how PHP is different, and why it doesn't fit PHP, unlike these languages. Now, have I got any answers to this? No! All I've got (from your posting, anyway) is "PHP is not language xxx". And? How does it change the argument? In what way is it different, so that operator overloading would not fit with PHP? I've got some answers in this thread, and I'll also search the archive for the rest, but "PHP is not language xxx" is a meaningless "answer". My use of the other languages was to show that other languages find it useful. Your use of other languages... well, it only says that PHP are not them, which doesn't really say anything beyond the obvious. I'm sorry, but our two arguments can't be compared. > Please, end this thread already and face the fact that this feature > will not get into PHP 5.1. I have no illusions of it going into PHP 5.1... This wouldn't be appropriate for a point release, for one thing. I have also very little belief of it ever getting into PHP, judging from the discussion. Regards, Terje -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
