On Thu, 27 Aug 2026, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:

> On 27 August 2026 04:36:50 BST, Nick Sdot <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >We win nothing by further stalling a decision; I believe we should 
> >stop the endorsement for PEAR.
> 
> I think this is the key: a lot of the comments on previous discussions 
> were about "giving a chance" for one or other individual or group to 
> revive the website. Multiple attempted contacts were made, and many 
> months have gone by, with nobody reporting a positive result.
> 
> If that's not long enough, how long is? If the site stays alive in its 
> current state for 10 years, it will continue to be exploited by 
> spammers and probably worse. That's not in anyone's interest.
> 
> -
> 
> Coincidentally, Andrew Nesbitt, who writes tooling and analysis 
> comparing different packaging systems, wrote a recent post about 
> approaches to sunsetting: 
> <https://nesbitt.io/2026/06/23/sunsetting-a-package-manager.html>
> 
> One of the points he discusses is that freezing a channel rather than 
> taking it offline means that security vulnerabilities are also frozen 
> in place, with no way to supersede them for anyone still using the old 
> tooling.
> 
> I think readonly is probably the right approach in this case at least 
> in the short term, but actively sunsetting later is maybe something to 
> consider.

I agree. I think we should commit to leaving it on for a specified 
amount only (a year), and then also turn off the archival variant of the 
site. We can move a tarball onto our museum.php.net property for 
archeologists.

cheers,
Derick

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