Hi, On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 7:48 PM Tim Düsterhus <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi > > On 2026-07-20 19:24, Jakub Zelenka wrote: > > I don't exactly understand why that Autoconf section does not mention > > that > > it is not available on distro levels for RHEL 8 and 9 so it makes > > things > > difficult for packagers like Remi who explicitly asked to delay it: > > The proposal clearly specifies the minimum versions for various distros. > > Well but it's pretty confusing for voters because they don't know that our minimum target is RHEL 8 which we have been using for deciding about minimum versions before. The fact that this even goes through RFC in this form is not good because we should rather have a general policy about minimum of supported distros that PHP is built on and set minimum deps versions based on that. This just hides this fact and for voters that have no idea what the supported distro versions are as this is very hard to notice. > > https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/21159#issuecomment-4287762254 ? > > This is > > quite strange because you even linked Tim's question and considering > > that > > The question has been left unanswered. Since the only reply was a vague > “I prefer to wait”, I proceeded with writing the RFC. > > Well, that seems kind of clear to me that some possibility is there otherwise there wouldn't be such preference. > > the Remi's preference is to delay, it obviously means that there are > > likely > > some plans to package 8.6 for those distros and this change will just > > make > > it harder. I don't see reason to rush it to 8.6 and make life harder > > for > > packagers so I voted no. > > I consider being able to properly rely on C11 functionality to be worth > it. Generally speaking, compilers on operating systems that don’t have > autoconf 2.71 likely also don’t (fully) support C11, the lack of a > modern autoconf is really just a canary there. > > Do you have some specific problems and why does it need to be enforced just before the feature freeze and cannot wait longer? Kind regards, Jakub
