On 08/05/2026 09:44, Tim Düsterhus wrote:
Hi

following Rowan’s request from the earlier “let the "new" operator fail when the __construct( ) function returns a value” discussion [1], I have now created a dedicated RFC to deprecate returning values from __construct() and __destruct().

Please find the RFC text at: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate-return-value-from-construct


Hi Tim,

Thanks for writing this up.

In terms of the proposal, I am thoroughly in favour. Deliberate use of a return value here is rare, and refactoring to use a non-magic helper method should generally be fairly easy. It's also in line with restrictions added to other magic methods - e.g. calling __toString() directly could return any value until 8.0, but it now acts as though declared with a return type of "string".

In terms of the RFC text, though, I think there should be more than a "see also" link to the previous RFC at https://wiki.php.net/rfc/make_ctor_ret_void This went to a vote and was declined (with a majority in favour, but not the required super-majority), so I think the new RFC should explain how either a) the new proposal is different from the old one; or b) the circumstances are different from when they were last voted.

(I think our policy wording on this [1] probably needs to be tightened up slightly; as written, it implies that a failed proposal could be brought to vote unchanged every 6 months, until the author got the result they wanted.)

[1] https://github.com/php/policies/blob/main/feature-proposals.rst#resurrecting-rejected-proposals

Regards,

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Rowan Tommins
[IMSoP]

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