Tim,

Many thanks for your comments regarding the RFC, I have updated it.
Regarding the issue of throwing errors if a path cannot be traversed due to
an intermediate step not being an array, I tend to agree with Larry so I am
leaving this as it is for the time being

Cheers

Carlos

On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 at 19:07, Tim Düsterhus <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Am 2026-04-20 17:18, schrieb Larry Garfield:
> > Just to make sure we're talking about the same thing here.  Tim, you're
> > suggesting that this:
> >
> > $a = ['foo' => 'bar'];
> > $val = array_path_get($a, ['foo', 'bar', 'baz']);
> >
> > Should error rather than returning null?
>
> Yes.
>
> > If the array were clearly, consistently, and properly structured, we
> > could reliably just do $a['foo']['bar'] and move on with life.
> > […]
> > So in that sort of case, I'm not sure it's useful to distinguish
> > between "There is no baz key on the array at foo.bar" and "foo.bar is a
> > string, not an array, wat?" […]
>
> The goal of the RFC is replacing `$a['foo']['bar']` where the *path is
> dynamic*. Quoting right from the introduction of the RFC:
>
> > When the structure of the array is known in advance and the exact
> > element to retrieve is hardcoded, existing PHP syntax works well […]
>
> And quoting further from the introduction:
>
> > array_path_get() retrieves a value from a deeply nested array and
> > returns a default value if the path does not exist.
>
> I'm arguing that a “(value at) path does not exist” is something
> fundamentally different from “value encountered on path cannot be
> traversed further”.
>
> > converting to an object
>
> I agree that the correct solution in the general case is “use a proper
> object mapper” (such as Valinor) and don't see much personal value in
> having the proposed functions. But if they exist, I would want them to
> behave as safely as possible and that includes erroring if they cannot
> make sense of the data. Emitting a Warning when encountering an
> improperly typed value across the path would also work for me, but I
> suppose that others won't be in favor of *that* :-)
>
> Best regards
> Tim Düsterhus
>

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