On 2026-02-02 13:18, Rob Landers wrote:



From an observability point of view, you lost me when you said return's type is "never".

https://3v4l.org/plpIf#v8.5.0 <https://3v4l.org/plpIf#v8.5.0>

We can clearly see the type is "null", unless you mean something more abstract?

I'm referring to the expression's value as it may exist in a larger expression, primarily for type checking. To use the match{} example, what value does $split get when $len == 1, because in that case the statement boils down to "$split = return false;"? Evaluation never comes back to the assignment to assign $split anything, in the same way that a call to a function of type never shouldn't see evaluation coming back to the call site.

If $split were something still visible after function return ("$o->p"), since the assignment didn't happen it would still have its previous value.

But as I alluded and you noted, this wouldn't be observable: the caller gets the value of the return expression's operand (or null, if no such operand was provided, in which case why are you trying to see the value of a function of type void?)

If you were doing static analysis, making the type of a return expression that of its operand could be an issue: in that match{} example there is no assertion that $split is supposed to contain a boolean. Let's say it's supposed to be an int. "int|bool" would be an incorrect inference; since never is a bottom type and thus a subtype of every type, "int|never" == "int".

On the other hand, "int|Exception" is just as invalid, but throwing exceptions from inside expressions is pretty well-behaved; I think modelling return's semantics the same way would work, but I don't know enough of the internals to make that judgement.

Basically, the type of a return expression would be the type of a throw.

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