On Tue, Aug 26, 2025, at 21:36, Larry Garfield wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2025, at 1:36 PM, Tim Düsterhus wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > On 8/26/25 16:48, Larry Garfield wrote:
> >> I have multiple times just recently had need of "I have a numeric string, 
> >> should I cast it to an int or a float?", for which an 
> >> is_representable_as_int() function (or similar) would be quite helpful, 
> >> and neater than the messy solution I usually use.
> >
> > It would've been nice to know what that use-case is, rather than just 
> > knowing that you had that use-case.
> >
> > I'm having a hard time thinking of something where I don't a-priori know 
> > what type I expect to get and would need to inspect the value to make a 
> > decision.
> >
> > I see how having a function that safely coerces a string into an int, 
> > returning null if coercion fails, basically intval() with better error 
> > handling and taking only `string`s, could be useful, but that's not what 
> > is being asked here.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Tim Düsterhus
> 
> When doing generic serialization, the input is often always-strings (eg, 
> environment variables, HTTP Query parameters, etc.)  When doing generic code 
> (not type generics, but "works on anything" kind of generic), I often have to 
> resort to this:
> 
> https://github.com/Crell/EnvMapper/blob/master/src/EnvMapper.php#L88
> 
> Which gets the job done, but feels ugly to me.
> 
> Even if I know what the target type is, I still need to ask the question "so 
> does this string match the target type?"  
> 
> https://github.com/Crell/Carica/blob/master/src/Middleware/NormalizeArgumentTypesMiddleware.php#L73
> 
> "I have a string, the parameter wants an int, is that even possible?"  Being 
> able to replace that floor() nonsense with is_integerable() (by whatever 
> name) would make my life a lot easier.
> 
> For float, is_numeric() is already sufficient for my purposes.  I just need 
> to be able to differentiate between "3" and "3.14" to cast to the correct 
> type.
> 
> --Larry Garfield
> 

Isn't this the entire use-case of type coercion?

— Rob

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