On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 2:01 PM carlos_silvaaaaa <carlos_silvaa...@proton.me> wrote:
> Hello everyone. > > I've been thinking about core developers these days, and I'm happy to see > the PHP foundation growing, and more and more new developers arriving, > eager to push PHP forward. > > But at the same time, I have the feeling that some want to own it, are > jealous, or are simply arrogant. > > The subject of this topic is acclaimed by a good part of the community, > the reactions are almost always positive, with lots of likes and comments, > and some comments are even pessimistic, not because of the approach chosen > by the author, but because of the ill will of the core developers. > > Maybe if this proposal had come from a more respected developer, who had > made more contributions, or I don't know what the criteria for accepting it > with open arms would be. > > Seeing Edmond's dedication, the great effort, to be ignored. > > Maybe it really would have been possible to vote within 15 days, because > it seems there were no objections. > > A few years ago, a good developer arrived wanting to improve PHP, but what > did they do? They treated him badly, they didn't know how to lead. It's > typical of this list. > > Seeing this topic still, I feel sad and realize how arrogant and toxic > most of the inmates are. I'm not one of the devs, just a user in the peanut gallery. (I've opened the PHP source code - it's, uhm, intimidating). I don't know what you're referring to here and can't comment to it. I can comment to at least the concept of adding async to PHP. In a word - why? PHP scripts have a defined lifecycle and you'll have to wait for any disk read ops or anything else you'd use a promise for to resolve anyway. JavaScript uses async to keep the code from locking up the browser while waiting on this sort of stuff - but PHP outputs an HTML file (usually) and that's a one time event. And if you move to any context outside the webserver page request model why use PHP at all? As a user I rather like not having to deal with async in PHP. While I can and do work with it in JavaScript it is by far the part of the language I dislike the most. If I've got to deal with concurrency and thread issues I'm writing the project in Golang or some other compiled language - not PHP - because if speed is that critical an interpreted scripting language is not the correct solution.
