> On Jul 1, 2024, at 4:54 PM, Jordan LeDoux <jordan.led...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 11:09 AM Mike Schinkel <m...@newclarity.net 
> <mailto:m...@newclarity.net>> wrote:
> 
> > and I'm fairly certain after keeping up with the thread that it is almost 
> > universally not what people want. Most people just want the toolbox be 
> > "finished" so to speak, not get a completely new one in addition that has 
> > no compatibility with the old one.
> 
> I get it. I am no longer proposing an alternative to the autoloader. PHP 
> developers are comfortable with autoloading and that is that.
> 
> But that does not mean that I cannot tell you and others the emperor has no 
> clothes in hopes that people eventually see that there can be better 
> alternatives.
> 
> -Mike
> 
> I'm not sure that constantly reiterating a point that everyone already knows 
> but simply disagrees with is productive for the list, considering that the 
> objection boils down to "but I don't like it" instead of "here are the 
> concrete technical drawbacks". All of the objections you had seemed to be 
> from the perspective "but what if the developer is only allowed 100 files on 
> disk and only uses notepad to edit the code?" I don't think those are 
> technical drawbacks personally, I think those are developers that need to at 
> least start programming like they are living in 2005.

Given the paragraph I wrote that started with "I get it..." I was planning on 
not making comment on topic.

>  All of the objections you had seemed to be from the perspective "but what if 
> the developer is only allowed 100 files on disk and only uses notepad to edit 
> the code?" I don't think those are technical drawbacks personally, I think 
> those are developers that need to at least start programming like they are 
> living in 2005.

However, since you GROSSLY mischaracterized my argument, I am going to call you 
out on that bit of attempted demonization of my argument on your part.  

But I won't repeat the argument because, why bother?

-Mike

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