On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 9:59 AM Jeffrey Dafoe <jda...@fsx.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 4:01 PM Erick de Azevedo Lima > > <mailto:ericklima.c...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Maybe if such a feedback was given before and it was decided to go for a > > trimmed version of the feature, maybe Ilija/Larry could have had less work > > to implement and test all the variantes they've done. I think if a person > > has such numerous concerns, it should be exposed ASAP even if your thoughts > > are not > > totally clear. If you had a chat directly with Ilija/Larry, they would be > > aware of such concerns and would expend efforts to address these concerns. > > > To an outsider, it looks wild when feedback starts coming in right before > > the vote starts. What's even more startling is that there are people with > > voting rights who have never participated in the discussion at all, yet > > have a right to wordlessly affect the vote's outcome. I sincerely hope > > Ilija and Larry's work don't > > go to waste here. > > I hope that the property hooks feature goes through. I've used it in C# and > it reads nice and saves time. > > Waiting until the last minute to express a significant design disagreement is > disrespectful of the time the RFC authors have spent working on this > proposal. It's also counterproductive to the PHP project overall. > > -Jeff
Just a friendly reminder that feedback on why people vote against RFCs has been desperately sought after and requested each time a seemingly popular RFC is rejected, and the feedback provided by others for this RFC was done so in good faith, before voting started, allowing the RFC authors to address said feedback should they choose to acknowledge it. And in general, the wider PHP community does not pay attention to RFCs until/unless they come up for a vote. Admonishing people for providing unexpected or negative feedback will have a chilling effect for future RFC attempts, as it's much easier to just silently vote no than to be attacked simply for providing a dissenting opinion at an inconvenient time. - Mark
