On 04/04/2024 22:10, Jordan LeDoux wrote:
On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 1:59 PM Barney Laurance
<bar...@redmagic.org.uk> wrote:
Hi again,
On 27/03/2024 00:40, Saki Takamachi wrote:
Do we also need `toFloat` and `toInt` functions? Seems like using explicit
functions will be safer than casting.
For toInt I'd expect an exception if the value is outside the range of
possible ints. For toFloat it might be nice to have a flag
argument to give the developer the choice of having it throw if the value
is outside the range of floats or return INF or -INF,
or possibly the user should just check for infinite values themselves.
I was thinking about those features too. However, I'm concerned that
proposing too many features will complicate the RFC and make it difficult to
get it approved.
Coming back to this point, I think these are basic features that
people would expect to be there - I think I would find just
slightly frustrating to start learning how to use a class like
this and then
find that it doesn't have these functions. Casting and calling
`intval` or `floatval` all feel like slightly awkward workarounds
that shouldn't be needed in a greenfield project. We know that the
string
inside the object is always a numeric string, so it should be
easier to parse it as an int than to parse it as a date or a JSON
document. Code doing the latter should stand out as odd looking.
The class cannot guarantee that it can return a value in the type you
request however, so the way that is handled would need to be decided.
The value can easily be outside of the range of an int. Should it
return a float silently in that case for `toInt()`? What if the value
is beyond the range of a float? That would be a very rare situation,
as floats can represent extremely large numbers (with very reduced
accuracy), but I would expect it to throw an exception if that
happened. Ideally an exception that I could catch and ignore, since I
can almost surely deal with that error in most situations.
What about a number that is so small that it can't fit in a float?
Similar situation, though I expect it would occur slightly more often
than a number being too large to fit in a float, even though it would
also be rare.
I think these helper functions belong in the RFC, but they aren't
quite straightforward, which is what I think Saki was alluding to.
Yes I agree there are subtleties to work out for these functions. I
don't think there's such a thing as a number to small to fit in a float.
Converting from decimal to float is always an approximation, sometimes
the best approximation available as a float will be either 0 or -0.
