Andi wrote:
> Oh boy, if you don't see the difference between "concrete 
> suggestions to be 
> heard that's fine, but try and keep it short, to the point, and 
> constructive" 

There were concrete solutions (if you cared to read. so atleast
read this one all the way)

And were also backed up by others. So not everyone 
took offense at it....nor there shold be any need to.
Why is it not concrete ?


Andi wrote:
> and the email you sent then it is really preferable to 
> everyone here for you to stop emailing this list.

So let us know who is included and who is
NOT in that convenient use of "everyone". 

We must drop arrognace and work towards encouraging 
discussions that can improve the situation moving 
forward. Only by encouraging discusssion can
we reach to solutions to such issues. 

Once again I am *not* asking to hold a whip to the 
developers who are working for free here. Just
dont include code until its ready. Let them mature 
elsewhere and carefully pick the best of the lot.
Invite implementations for a given feature. So
people know their work may have a good chance of
going somehwere...if they did a good job.
It encourages healthy competition and improves 
product quality. PHP has been bitten by this
before many times, lets not let it happen again.

And lets not advertise experimental features.

-Roshan

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