> On 22 Nov 2021, at 11:32 PM, Nils Adermann <nader...@naderman.de> wrote:
>
> On 22.11.21 23:07, Kim Hallberg wrote:
>>
>>> On 22 Nov 2021, at 10:53 PM, Sara Golemon <poll...@php.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Now that the new PHP Foundation has been announced, I've been asked if we'd
>>> mind configuring a Sponsor button on our github.com project profile.
>>> https://docs.github.com/en/repositories/managing-your-repositorys-settings-and-features/customizing-your-repository/displaying-a-sponsor-button-in-your-repository
>>>
>>> Pro: Gives appreciative users somewhere to send their appreciation and the
>>> project doesn't have to worry about all the tax implications.
>>>
>>> Con: PHP has always remained unbiased regarding frameworks and libraries,
>>> and I think the same should apply to other external organizations, like the
>>> foundation. There are, in fact, other foundations already in existence,
>>> and if we send traffic to one, we should send traffic to all.
>>>
>>> An alternative may be to link to the various foundations from php.net (and
>>> github.com/php) with some text stating that they are all independent
>>> organizations which contributors should assess individually.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to thoughts,
>>> -Sara
>>
>> What about a php.net/donate page? GitHub’s funding file works with custom
>> URLs.
>>
>> So one solution could be a donate page where organisations can submit their
>> links
>> and possible a description. Something like /conferences and the user-groups.
>>
>> The page wouldn’t need any forms or anything, a PR directly to the page
>> could work.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Kim.
>>
>
> I think a major benefit of linking GitHub sponsors with open collective
> is that the donation is charged as a line item on regular GitHub
> invoices, rather than having to go to some separate website and submit
> billing details. This significantly simplifies sponsoring for some
> organizations, e.g. where selecting a sponsor target on GitHub is a lot
> easier than getting some finance department to set up billing for a
> sponsorship on a third party website.
>
> That said, it could still be handled separately from the main php org
> page on its own github org if sentiment here is against tying them
> together. Just trying to help explain why GitHub sponsors specifically
> is beneficial rather than just a link to a donation page somewhere
>
> Cheers,
> Nils.
>
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As far as I know that is not the case. Look as vuejs/vue for instance.
They have an Open Collective in their sponsors link and that opens a new tab.
What you’re describing is using the GitHub sponsors platform, that is not the
same as
adding PHP Foundation’s Open Collective to PHP’s funding.yaml file.
For GitHub sponsors the organisation, in this case PHP, would need to connect a
bank account directly to the organization. You can see more information about
that
on the documentation regarding setting up GitHub sponsors for your
organization[1]
If PHP did that we wouldn’t really need non-profit orgs like PHP Foundation.
As for linking to PHP Foundation’s Open Collective on a funding file[2]. That
would
go against PHPs unbiased nature, since as Sara pointed out.
PHP has always remained unbiased in the past for things of this nature. So
adding
them there would create a link between the two orgranization that PHP don’t do
for
other organizations.
Creating a /donate page on php.net where orgs that want to contribute monetarily
towards the development of PHP and with a statement from PHP that these orgs
aren’t officially affiliated and to use them as their own risk would, IMHO be
an option.
[1]:
https://docs.github.com/en/sponsors/receiving-sponsorships-through-github-sponsors/setting-up-github-sponsors-for-your-organization
[2]:
https://docs.github.com/en/repositories/managing-your-repositorys-settings-and-features/customizing-your-repository/displaying-a-sponsor-button-in-your-repository
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